But this goes beyond them, it goes back to Adam and Eve.Adam and Eve had the privilege of being with God, the way that God had intended. So no, I will not take down this post or apologize for it, unless you can actually show me where the Bible says that they did walk with God. He was given the title of the "tree of the knowledge of good and evil" because he knew good and evil. Every description used can also be said about the angelic beings. It is definitely possible that the person in the Garden was the preincarnate Christ. How many pastors and other teachers have taught that the Bible says Adam and Eve walked with God in the garden? All of the things you mentioned are plausible, but they do not build a watertight argument. Psalm 104:3. Lets consider this for a moment? Picture this. Job 38:1 states, The YHWH answered Job out of the whirlwind, and said:. However, the walk in these passages should probably be understood in a figurative sense. Although I agree, you simply cannot prove this one way or another, however I believe the scripture gives us enough evidence to assume with confadence, that Jesus did take a physical form and did actually, literally walk through the garden. I hope this helps. God told them to be fruitful and multiply. Then brought Eve to him. Then something happened. So there minds were NOT YET CORRUPTED until God ALLOWED there FREE WILL to be tested, just as the Father through the Holy Spirit ALLOWED Christ Jesus to be tested in the wilderness. If God was in spirit form hiding would make no sense, how can you hide from someone you cant see? Useful insights. So what if he didnt say the words in genesis one would think you would be wise enough to figure it out its not hard. Is it so hard to see that broke the fall in a righteous or right standing with God, the first family would run hard to God. As a father communes with His children, so does the Creator with His created beings (Psalm 103:13). But I dont think we need to have them walking with God in the garden to show how bad sin is. Third, Adams response at seeing Eve confirms the point: This is now bone of my bone and flesh of my flesh (Genesis 2:23). That is exactly how his walking with Adam and Eve in the Garden is depicted. Hi Ed, Due to the craftiness of the serpent, sin found its way into the Garden and everything fell apart. Whats different, and merits the commentary, is not that God has for the first time come to walk in the Garden, but that for the first time his walking in the Garden is responded to in fear and hiding, due to sin. But its entirely different to claim that the Bible teaches or implies that they did when there just arent any statements in the text that teach or imply that position. And then. When the shadows flee away, I will go my way to the mountain of myrrh. God created human beings to have fellowship with him. 2. (Vs. 14) Did this wind also clothe Adam and Eve with skins from an animal that had to be killed? Then ended up here. I think too often we read ideas into a passage that might be accurate, but then through the years, our interpretation of the passage is taken as a given that it must be true. I believe one of the biggest weapons used against it is when secular opponents are more aware of the accuracy of the passages like this than we Christians who misuse and misquote them. They consisted of both physical and spiritual components, just like all of their descendants, although originally they were without sin. Satan. there are many who use the idea of Adam and Eve actually walking with God to stress the theological point of mans closeness to God prior to sin in order to contrast that with mans lost condition after sin. He claims that seeing Him is seeing the Father.. then I see no problem with Jesus being the physical manifestation of God walking in . In a similar way, we are told in the New Testament to walk in the Spirit (Galatians 5:16). As I mentioned in the conclusion, God could have walked with them, but the Bible does not tell us that He did. It saddens me to let go of the notion that God would hang out with them in the cool of the evening. I also see or notice (for first time) that the description occurred after the fall & is only described once. Adam did hear Gods voice at another time. Thanks for your thoughts on this. He created a vast array of angels prior to the creation of man, so theres no guarantee that God spent a bunch of time with Adam and Eve. Or perhaps just the knowledge of being disobedient & the result of knowing their nakedness is what caused him to be afraid. 16 I also will do this unto you I will appoint unto you terror consumption burning ague that shall consume the eyes and cause sorrow of heart and you shall sow your seed in vain your enemies shall eat it17 and I will set my face against you 18 and if you still dont listen to Mei will punish you 7 times more for your sins please not that it is sin that seperates man from god. If so, that means Cain and Abel could have been over 120 years old when Cain killed Abel. Genesis 2:15-17 doesn't provide many details, 15 Then the Lord God took the man and put him into the garden of Eden to cultivate it and keep it. Sam. I think we both agree that God doesnt need to appear in human form to bring the animals to Adam or to perform surgery on him. We cant know because the Bible doesnt speak to this at all. Notify me of follow-up comments by email. It is possible that the Lord taught them how to do certain things, as you say, but it certainly wasnt necessary. God, by nature, is Spirit and a spirit does not have a bodily form. Genesis 3:8 KJV. by Erik Jones. He could have spoken out of a whirlwind to them and banished them from the Garden in that form. Adam fell because he freely chose to disobey God, but second because he listened to his wife who had also freely chosen to disobey. Hi Sam, Haha very eye opening. In order to answer the question of why God created Adam and Eve naked we first need to look as some Scriptures which show that the Bible uses clothing is a symbol of our character. The only begotten Son, who is in the bosom of the Father, He has declared Him. Whirlwinds dont speakunless it is God appearing in that form. The strong wind or breezy alternative is reflected in the notes of many English Bibles, such as the NASB, NET, and ESV, and it is even the translation of the HCSB. With this particular issue, the reason I addressed it is because I hear it so frequently. 9 GOD made all kinds of trees grow from the ground, trees beautiful to look at and good to eat. Moses was only granted the backside of Jesus. We speak of ourwalk with God, yet dont speak of Him being right there physically. Thanks! And they heard the voice of the Lord God walking in the garden in the afternoon; and both Adam and his wife hid themselves from the face of the Lord God in the midst of the trees of the garden. Further, although the phrase could be translated as a strong wind, the text would still say that he came walking in a strong wind. I will make a helper suitable for him" ( Genesis 2:18 ). Lord God (pre-incarnate Jesus Christ) was also the burning bush that app. This just goes on and on and on all the way through this book about how god expects his people to walk with him please read the book of Leviticus slowly it gives all the details that genesis doesnt. We walk with the voice of God as well. It was the sound of God that Adam heard. Gen 18 - Abraham's discussion and bargaining with the LORD (YHWH) Ex 3 - Moses at the burning bush. The Genesis account contains provocative clues as to what Adam and Eve lost by withdrawing from God. But thats not at all what is going on here. Seasoned or mature believers should know the text, the text is the milk, living the text is the meat. Walking with God means you are in agreement with Him and His ways ( Amos 3:3 ). The children of Israel had a great amount of lifestock during the time of their exodus. Again, nothing in Scripture tells us that they walked with God or carried on a conversation with Him. If the voice of God walking in the garden caused them to run and hide because of disobedience, sin, judgement. How cool would that be! "Until the cool of the day. This could be literally translated "the wind of that day." Some think this might refer to a strong wind. The same (principle) applies to the natural reading of anything: that according to the thing itself. God's presence is also noted by . I dont think it was a mystery to themat least not completely. Was it God walking or was it something different? Could the person who was walking in the Garden have been the Angel of the Lord or the Pre-Incarnate Christ? Other Biblical accounts clearly show this - as it is God who speaks with, walks with, and assist humans to discover His nature and His love. 14Today you are driving me from the land, and I will be hidden from your presence; I will be a restless wanderer on the earth, and whoever finds me will kill me.. So if your standard were correct, then that same standard would itself have to be outright affirmed in the Bible. You are essentially appealing to an argument from silence. One good example is Leviticus 26:12 AND I WILL WALK AMONG YOU AND BE YOUR GOD. Thanks for reading and sharing your thoughts. . Instead of adding our own ideas to Scripture and stating them dogmatically and demanding apologies from anyone who disagrees, perhaps we should learn to deal carefully with the word of God. Even the best of our actions is imperfect. If he was just manifesting himself in a strong wind, there would be no need to use the word walking. The Garden of Eden, the terrestrial Paradise known also as the Garden of God, is one of the most famous settings in the Bible. First it should be recognised that Genesis is a seed box if you want details you need to keep reading. Maybe it is implied elsewhere in the Bible? I decided to search the internet to see WHY people believe this. Nothing in that passage says it, and thats the main point of this post. I worship in His presence and put off His presence! It doesn't come before, which furthers the notion that God would have been content with them being without clothes, at least provided they didn't eat from the Tree. That would be really cool. So, it is not a far stretch to suppose that God and Adam might have walked together in the Garden, if not regularly, else why would God have gone to the trouble to create a garden and put man into it, if not to have a direct relationship. Finally, there are many who use the idea of Adam and Eve actually walking with God to stress the theological point of mans closeness to God prior to sin in order to contrast that with mans lost condition after sin. If this is how the phrase should be translated, then God was not simply walking through the Garden. Canada AKA Commie Da under seditious King/Crime Minister Justin Trudeau!! Garden of Eden story: summary. Far too many people run around claiming, The Bible says Adam and Eve walked with God in the garden, but as Ive pointed out, it doesnt say that. Perhaps some people may have this figurative sense in mind when they speak of our first parents walking with God. I think that would be fantastic. As I mentioned in my post, I have absolutely no problem with the idea that they might have walked with God in the garden. Just read John 1 it says God was there in the beginning and on earth in the flesh so just read the book. Hi Robert, (Vs. 21) Did the wind drive them out of the garden? God also brought the animals to Adam so he could name them. Regardless, my point is that Adam was familiar enough to recognized it was God. 5. But since God formed (literally squeezed into shape) Adam and breathed into his nostrils and removed one of his ribs and closed up the wound and walked in the garden and spoke to Adam and Eve (and then Cain later on) in a way they could easily understand, the assumption is unavoidable that God was physically there in tangible form. 1. Your email address will not be published. God went down to talk with Adam and Eve as usual in the cool of the day, normally they would be in the open and easy to find, but this time when God came they were afraid and had hidden behind some trees or bushes. Adam and Eve obeyed God. God must have schooled him in his new surroundings. He was with them when they were deceived by Satan. Sincerely, If He did or didnt is still and can always be up for discussion , its a gut instinct in me that says no but at the end of the day Im just glad Im saved and can sort it out when I get to Heaven! In Lev 26 god goes into great detail about how they were to walk with god and how god would walk with them ( please dont say ohhh but it doesnt say it) it does say very loudly its deafening. I have found Bible studies that indicate that God fellowshipped or walked with Adam and Eve, and they refer to Genesis 3:8. You can see from the above that God decreed several things for Adam to honour and obey. The book of Genesis tells us that the Lord appeared and fellow-shipped with Adam and Eve in the garden of Eden (ch. It doesnt say that they were walking with God. And God created a new animal to be a companion for Adam and Eve. They are intelligent, rational creatures, capable of communicating and worshiping God. Because Adam and Eve had eaten the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil, the Lord sent them out of the Garden of Eden into the world. Many people assume that this one verse is symbolic, as . . When God asked them how they knew they were naked, and asked them if they had eaten from the tree they were not to. I would assume that they drank goats milk during this time as well. It is like asserting that, since NO text in the Bible OUTRIGHT affirms that Adam ever saw the stars, then It is unwarranted to assume that he ever did see the stars.. Thanks for your thoughts and kind words. We can speculate, contemplate, and imagine probable scenarios by referencing other relationships in the Bible, but in this day and time especially, we must be diligent and aware of the texts true contents. I have no problem with the concept of Adam and Eve walking with God and seeing Him. But we need to be careful not to assert that the Bible directly teaches this. Therefore, We also should not assume that God was at their beck and call so that He would come around for a stroll with them whenever they wanted Him there. I know when I say that Adam walked with God in the Garden, I mean to say that God spent time with them, not literally walking in the garden, God doesnt walk, He is Spirit! Christ exemplified the relationship that mankind should have with our heavenly Father and creator. I dont know if I will recieve a responce or not, but it does not say that God made them skins from animals. Adam and Eve enjoyed a relationship with God, and with each other, that was unhindered by the disruptive power of sin. 12 Therefore, just as sin entered the world through one man, and death through sin, so also death was passed on to all men, because all sinned. Please do look it up, and if you find it, let me know, so I can apologize and correct this post. But your claim is based on only such a narrow standard. WHY? I just think that Adam and Eve would have needed alot of one on one guidance from God, in person, that of which they couldnt have possibly received by remote control. As I mentioned in the post, even if He walked through the Garden to speak to Adam and Eve it would not prove that they used to take walks with Him. Answer (1 of 21): The context once again gives the answer. So, heres one guy that wont repeat this again. Now we do not see You any more. If the idea being conveyed by the text is a strong wind then this scene was probably quite similar to the way God spoke to Job, as I mentioned in the article. It does not say that God drove Adam and Eve, or the man and the woman, out of the Garden of Eden. Hi Jeff, I think your comments are valid additional arguments that could be used by those who favor that view, but as you seem to recognize (it seems to follow), the arguments are not watertight. The idea of God openly talking and physically walking with Adam and Eve is that God is interested in humans and want to develop a close friendship with them. Later Israel recognized that God demanded holiness and obedience if he were to continue to walk among his people. Hello Tim, I honestly do not understand why you are so hellbent on trying to make a point of saying that Adam and Eve did not walk with God? 5 For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil. Did they do this daily, weekly, etc.? No, I mean that God must have spent time with them in order to teach them, how else would they learn to talk, to till the land, to eat, to basically live their lives in a way that was pleasing to Him! Maybe they did, but the text doesnt tell us that. I too have always heard that God walked with Adam & Eve in the cool of the day every day. When He asked them why they hid they answered Him. They got to take walks with him, check out the animals, enjoy the beau They heard the sound of the Lord God walking in the garden in the cool of the day, and the man and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the Lord God among the trees of . It is doubtful that God threw Adam into a confusing environment where he would be overwhelmed with the array of plants and animals. This just isnt found in the text and seems very unlikely in light of the details given in the post. We did not know, nor trained ourselves to do that and now see our own child in the consequences. Gen 3:8 And they heard the voice of the LORD God walking in the garden in the cool of the day: and Adam and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the LORD God amongst the trees of the garden. Who was Cain afraid of? I would argue that angels are probably made in His image as well,. They had all they could ever want. Just like when we will be fully glorified in the new age, we shall see God, because we shall be sinless then; Adam couldnt have hid himself from wind alone, there must be an accompanied physical presence that he knew about; When you follow the account of Genesis at that material time, its hard to think that God was just coming through the medium of wind, then why did he create man in the first place, if at all he didnt want the man to see him? It says that he went to the land of Nod and then she conceived a son (Enoch). Following Gods words to the T is one of the reasons why the law was fulfilled by Jesus and not by man. Here is the verse in its entirety. Its one thing to believe that Adam and Eve walked with God and to recognize that its based on some fairly reasonable assumptions. In fact, they didn't even know what want and longing were! In the book of Genesis we read that Adam used to walk with the Lord God in the cool of the day. may I use your illustration in a short story that I will submit for publication on a non-commercial website (perhaps only my own personal website, if I cannot find acceptance at a more widely viewed site)? He does indeed come down, but this time for confrontation and judgment, whereas before it had been for fellowship. I dont recall a specific instance of this, but since the promised land was repeatedly spoken of as a land flowing with milk and honey, I take that to mean that their flocks would thrive and they would have an abundance of milk (in addition to honey and more). So I will get rid of the statement being discussed here. Say, for example, that they werent expelled from the Garden until they were 60+ or 70+ (or older). I am simply trying to point people back to Scripture as Ive done in many other posts in my Misused Verses series. As you know, I couldnt find it. Thats the point of this post. They may have done that, and I wouldnt have any problem with it. I dont believe I said anywhere in the post or in the comments that the coats of skin were made from animals, although I certainly believe this is easily the most logical conclusion. And 2 kids who wont hear it that way from Dad. Well, Jesus wasn't there with Adam and Eve in the beginning. To your third point (in the next post), I think the temple imagery is overdone a bit in modern times. That's why he was walking in the garden: he wanted to meet with Adam and Eve and spend time with them. Yes, Adam and Eve were made in His image (as are all of us), but I would argue that angels are probably made in His image as well, and even the holy angels arent in ongoing (i.e. 10 He answered, "I heard you in the garden. (Vs. 24 says He drove them out the he place Cherubims). God called (using a Hebrew word that also means "to summon") Adam to face . (Genesis 3:8). Yes, they could have done this if God made a physical appearance (called a theophany), as He did in other places (e.g., Genesis 12:7; 18:1). But God knew they had eaten the forbidden fruit. What an absolute honor we have as human beings to be made in the image of the Creator and to be called to demonstrate who He is and what He is like. I believe it is very important to know what is and isnt in the Bible. But there is no need to make the text outright say something it does not, in fact, outright say. He was given power and authority by Father God to create the universe and all life within it. Dont you think that Adam and Eve being new and first created that God would have been extremely close to them ? Hi Tim, I think it would be odd for God to first come walking in the garden with Adam and Eve only after they had sinned. For the record, I strongly reject such a notion. Tim. IOW, IMV Where Adam FAILED, Christ Jesus PASSED, *Saying all this Tim, I truly respect your thoughts and views as a brother in Christ. But it would be nice for you or someone else to show me where the Bible ever makes that claim. The imagery in the temple indicates that it was recreating Eden, indicating that God was present in Eden in a special way that he was not present in other places on the earth. I believe God appeared to Adam and Eve and Cain and Enoch and Noah and Abraham and Isaac and Jacob (when He wrestled with Him) and the parents of Samson, and even to Balaam and his donkey, the same way He appeared to John. But its an irrelevant point. In each case, they are basing their ideas on something that isnt stated in Scripture. So Adam hears a sound, which he knows is the sound of God. Im not sure what that accomplishes other than allowing for the possibility that they might have, which is something I have said from the start. Genesis 3:2-5. Thanks for this article, it was an interesting read. ILL TAKE YOUR APOLIGE NOW ,,WHERE THEY USE TO WALK WITH GOD ,THEY CHOOSE TO HIDE !! They were to work the land 6 years right? 4. Although Exodus established that God was present everywhere through the judgement on Egypt, it also taught that God would be present in a special way in the tabernacle (later to be replaced by the temple). There are several possibilities, such as siblings, nephews, and nieces. This post isnt about whether they enjoyed fellowship with Him prior to sin and walked with Him in a metaphorical sense. They were placed in the Garden of Eden and given everything they needed: food, work, companionship, and fellowship with God as they walked with him in the cool of the day (Genesis 3:8). Genesis 3:8, CSB: Then the man and his wife heard the sound of the Lord God walking in the garden at the time of the evening breeze, and they hid from the Lord God . God did really walked with man physically, reasons: then Adam was sinless, only sin can hide God from us, so why should God hide himself from a sinless being? Thank you for reaffirming to me that we can say anything about God and find some reason for or against our reasoning, and that is why we have to be very careful to know what Gods Word says! This is very important to walk with god on this because if they didnt walk with god by keeping his commandments sabbaths and statutes then there would be no rain. I went to church this past Sunday and my pastor who is pretty good with the Word of God and quick to say if he is wrong said he had a revelation thats god ohyically walked with Adam and Eve and as he spoke my discernment clearly was NO THIS DID NOT HAPPEN. Im not sure what this has to do with whether they walked with God in the garden. Now there is no way to prove that God actually walked with them or actually spent anytime with them, it is just implied from His habitual coming to the garden in the cool of the day. It is true that they had not experienced death yet, they came pre-programmed with an ability to speak and understand things. I have a problem with Christians continually repeating that the Bible says they walked with God in the garden because it doesnt say that. So they hid from the LORD God among the trees. 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