As per moral and ethical standards. 4 38 Korwar Korwari Kaikadi Koragar Yerkala Erakala Kunchi Korva Koramasetty Yerukala 12011/68/93-BCC(C ) dt 10/09/1993 12011/21/95-BCC,dt.15/05/1995 Who are Gounders in Tamil Nadu? You can add it 22 Mr. Eagle,I am not debating based on indian constitution.. As a whole Indians are attacked racially elsewere (Australia). Abstain from posting comments that are obscene, defamatory or inflammatory, and do not indulge in personal attacks. 1. Come down from the pedestal, accept the realities, be practical and above all try to all encompassing - if you still want to do politics with PCR act and all you will become the political untouchable and by next election you are finished ..Aru Pon - I respect your views. (Sample Study) . 12: G.O (MS) No. It may refer to communities such as the , Kongu Vellalars, Kurumbas, Tuluva Vellalars, Uralis, Vanniyars, Vettuvars and Vokkaligas. Whatever you write in this blog, we will vote for KVs and you will see the results. A great work, to record all our history, customes, value systems and to spread unity amoung us. The prominent Kongu Nadu-based parties, Kongunadu Munnetra Kazhagam and later Kongunadu Makkal Desiya Katchi, were primarily Gounder caste outfits similar to the PMK for Vanniyars. [59]They were more orthodox than the Brahmins in their religious practices. & date 1 . However, no specific time frame has been fixed for on acting on the State governments recommendation. We need to prove it.Please go through the below link.http://controversialhistory.blogspot.com/2007/10/origin-of-gangas.html, Kongunadu has nearly 70 assembly constituencies out of the total 234. The outfit may not have won even a single seat but left a mark by playing spoiler in several of the 12 seats it contested. On American Slavery and untoucability - American slavery is 100% abolished now. There are number of derivations for the title. Central MP position is even bad 5/11 constituencies and no central ministers from the community while Vanniars and Thevars have 3 strategic ministers each. . There are only two ministers now with dummy portfolios. About Us | Privacy Policy | Happy to know this. In that trend you should have got more votes in the Nilgris as it is in the strong Gounder belt of Kovai. Prof. The readers are advised to have a prior reading of the author's blog on Kongu history before going through this blog for easing their strain. Marabalan had various titles such as Gangavamsa, Devar, Vellalar, Bupaalan, etc. Full of EGO. Whether he is affected personally by the castism. I would further point out that old texts, such as those by Thurston and Iyengar, are both highly unreliable and controversial. (The fact that Article 17 is not 100% enforced and there are people clamoring for the removal/amendment to PCR act is a different matter).2. The party is looking at consolidating about 18 lakh votes out of that before the next assembly polls. Mother Tongue. Caste, Sub Caste : Kongu Vellala Gounder (Caste No Bar) Star : Hastham Location : Tamil Nadu,India Education: Higher Secondary School / High School Occupation : - View Full Profile Like this member? Its wake up call. Dont comment that all Gounders are not good. The party polled 5.8 lakh votes (1.92%). you like to be called a sudra? . Worldwide, movements are there to reduce racism. What made you comment like this. [15], Two identical Tamil inscriptions from Avani and Uttanur in Mulbagal Taluk dated in the 3rd year of Kulottunga I (about 1072-1073 CE) describe how the great army of the right hand class (perumpadai valangai mahasenai) having arrived with great weapons of war from the 78-nadus of Chola-mandalam and the 48000-bhumi of Jayangonda-cholamandalam (the northern districts of Tamil Nadu that is Tondaimandalam) conquered and colonized southern Karnataka (Kolar district) by the grace of Rajendrachola (Kulottunga I). Education: Masters - Engineering . Excellent show of strength in the 2009 elections. SELVAM HOSUR. The very step is to enter all the information such as your name, date of birth, marital status, religion, caste, sub-caste, mother tongue, contact number, mail id, height, weight and color. But your pre-defined belief doesnt allow you to see those../** and which, though constitutionally and by rule of law is granted to them, but denied mostly in villages. This is the last chance for us to show our stregth and make the changes. i have one doubt regarding the Modavanthi Gounder ? KNMP is emotinally orchestrating its pogram, but many of the poor and middle class sections of vellalars / gounders don't know that they are being mislead by the rich. iam very proud to know about our community.thanks and regardskrishna raja gounder, hi its krishna from namakkal. instead we have more problems! EAGLE . EAGLE .soon to come.. pls all kongu are vote only (KNMP).TELL OTHER ALSO.THEN ONLY KONGU NADU WILL DEVELOPED.SO ALL OUR RELATIVES HELP.PLS ALL ARE GIVE MAIL ID .THEN ONLY DEVELOPE OUR RELATION.kongufdvasanth@gmail.com. 50,000 people gathered with BEST RAMSAMY in pollachi today for the filing of nomination..the biggest crowd ever..vote for kongu. [65], During the British colonial period, the Vellalars who were land owners and tillers of the soil and held offices pertaining to land, were ranked as Sat-Sudra in the 1901 census; with the Government of Madras recognising that the 4-fold division (four varnas) did not describe the South Indian, or Dravidian, society adequately. come to pollachi and coimbatore and see.each and every kongu gounder home is supplied with kongu flag.all of them have hosted..i filmed the video of nomination filing rally i am going to put in youtube also.u see.7000 flags where supplied in pollachi until now all of them have hosted.most of the villages in pollachi have no political parties at all all gounders have dissolved and joined kongu party. i m belongs to veliyam kooam. I am disappointed, that instead of discussing history, politics is discussed.Mr. iam proud to born in this great caste "KONGU VELLALA GOUNDER" & also in the kootam of Theivathiru vallalperunthagai "KALINGARAYAGOUNDER". [50][51], At present, most of the Tamil Jains are from the Vellalar social group. Do you know the cause of social issues/ problems in Kongu nadu? See in the north and west of India where land lords have donated huge lands for educational institutions and developed very good infrastructure, produced leaders and scientists and created name for regions. r u trying to say tht my comments r nt valuable? A barber then blesses him and they go to the bride's house on horseback, where they are met by someone from the bride's party similarly mounted. KNMP watches the others and by organizing marches, a threat is given to others. I Pray Lord Muruga to shower His blessings on your sister and your family. For the first time, the castes listed under SC are to be assigned the title Vellalar. The Gounders are the dominant caste in the western region of Tamil Nadu. Here is where God or eternal order intervenes. Yes, KNMP should be a party of all castes and communities in Kongu region. And on the sexual exploitation - the exploitation of the Dalit and the under-privileged women by Zamindars and wealthy landlords are well known. Criminal offense. Let us see the results and you pass your comments.Degrading our community is not necessary now.Considering our community people's magnanimity and generosity, other caste people will also vote for us. The stone is said to represent the Kongu king and the worship is a symbolic request for permission of the marriage, as in the old days the king was supposed to give permission for every marriage. 'Arasial Eluchi Maanadu' opening is super. Let us have local organizations with representatives from all sections and find solutions. Funny comments from our Kongu Lions !This blog is about Kongu Vellala Gounder history.You are going away from the theme of this blog.Please try to purify the quality of our caste, if you find some impurities in it.Do you think all Gounders are arrogant, inhumane, etc. Religion / Caste. They were related to the Cholas by marriage. Kuyilan; 14. [60][61] The Vellalar nobles had marriage alliances with Chola royal families. They made money, they buuilt ashrams and hospitals, liquor industries and institutions and made money.. what about the lower and middle class? Nammal Mudiyum! The Vellalar also had more authority, power and status than the Brahmins in some social and ritual contexts. http://www.blogger.com/profile/01518642138211248466u, http://www.orissagov.nic.in/e-magazine/Journal/Journal2/pdf/ohrj-03.pdf, www.jaintirths.com/general/gangadynasty.html, http://www.ourkarnataka.com/states/history/historyofkarnataka11.htm, http://www.tamilartsacademy.com/journals/volume5/articles/article4.xml, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Kongu_vellalar. Try to avoid outside hyperlinks inside the comment. To protect himself. - - . I appreciate this work. /** If I could make a 10% change in your viewpoints that is enough for me **/This is the core problem here.. you consider yourself as moral authority and attempt to change me.. instead of debating, your aim is changing me.. /**Untouchability is a crime. I have just removed 90% of the article because it was an uncited, sprawling and confusing list of clans. So try to get away from this proposal. Think before you votearu pon natarajan Pollachi. If you accept caste, then you should accept that we are all sudras according to brahmins.. it does not matter, if you have money or land.. for brahmins we are sudras, the fourth caste! Thanks Mr. Rajkumar for your valuable comments.Keep aside all our statistics including the comments of statistics genius Mr. Eagle /Sivakumar. Why you are so wild against this community, you being part of it. This practice was existing till 1990's..In villages, the dalits have the freedom to have their own temples for worship and community festival..The list continues further..So, please stop emotionalising and sensationalising issues, and deal with it practically..It is the so called intellectuals, who use the slum dwellers for cleaning their streets, the garbages, the sewage canals, and go to their office in a car, and write about dalit empowerment..I dont want that hypocrisy here.. Mr. Eagle,/** Why do they prefer Urban filth over the healthy rural ? HKsC/ e)=#Sb)>y.gay.Ys_xxs+i4\?4Uw!Y)$z3W1cfs4Ud{_jN>6 MS\\/_ua*HyiN/C:4\+C"8WKyfx$ N/_G54/_\>{[/$6(fZM\u5XddYuP~{~&,3Vb;4SWzI@pP|MMW.VVbe[7C[JZ4J[0LfC*1 U When they return, they are touched by an arumaikkarar with a betel leaf dipped on oil, milk and water. Easwaran claims the community has more than one crore members and roughly 70 lakh votes in the state. Directory However, the government's position has been that inclusion or classification of castes in any list is solely the work of the Backward Classes Commission. [17], In the years that immediately followed the Sangam age (from third to sixth century CE), the Tamil lands were ruled by a dynasty called Kalabhras. Untouchability/apartheid/racism are all manifestations of the same problem. Kuruba: Leave a Comment Cancel reply. Thuluva Vellala, Archakari Vellala, Isaivellalar, Kongu Vellalar (about 15 gounder castes), Sozhia Vellalar (four sub castes), Virakodi Vellala, Podikara Vellalar, Nangudi Vellalar and Kuga Vellalar. They are also known by names such as "Bupaalan", Gangavamsam, Kudiyaanavar and Vivasaayi, and use the title Gounder as a caste appellation in their personal names. May be your Thirupur candidate also .the total of other constituency might be around one to two lakh - so a max of six lakhs is the vote you got ..spread over 12 constituencies ..You cant go beyond ward or panchayat level with this vote *bank* .You said during nomination itself Best got a crowd of 50,000 ??? When, RGI, State government and SC/ST Commission have approved the recommendation, the proposal would be sent to Cabinet for amending relevant sections in the legislation. The Tolkappiyam does not contain the term Vellalar but refers to a group of people called Velaan Maanthar who apart from practising agriculture had the right to carry weapons and wear garlands when they were involved in affairs of the state. As late as 1930-1940's the Nairs of Kerala used to exploited their women workers by asking them to work topless**/First, the zamindar system is NOT part of caste system..Second, the zamindari and landlord concept was first introduced by muslim kings and rather exploited by britishers..Thirdly, the fact some of the landlords made women to work topless is NOT attributed to caste system or untouchability in general.. its a localised incident, that occured because there is no native king to regulate.. /** I alluded the story of "throwing out of train .." to remind the struggle of Mahatma Gandhi - This particular incident spurred Gandhi to fight against the imperialism and dominance of Whites .Probably if he and/or other social reformers have not fought for the fundamental rights may be our/your situation today will be like that (Dominated by a upper caste/religion/race person)**/The incident of gandhi occured in southafrica, thrown out by white britishers.. such racism prevailed only in europe, and NOT in india..The concept of higher caste and lower caste is a european one, where nobles exploited the serfs..In india, there is no such higher caste or lower caste.. the so called higher caste brahmins in india lived a disciplined life, with lot of restrictions, without any political power..There is no concept of higher or lower.. there was both upward and downward mobility of castes in india..So, dont confuse the european system with indian one.. this is the mistake that most of the indians do, because of academic propoganda.. both are entirely different..Btw, have you read dharampal's books?visit www.dharampal.net. The community has its own style of marriage ceremony. Gounders traditionally controlled most of the land in western Tamil Nadu, and had the Arunthathiyar community as labourers.
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